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-- the president runs strong there -- ran strong there. in michigan of course mitt romney said let detroit go bankrupt. i don't think he will ever recover from that. wisconsin is -- wisconsin is closer than it was in '08. we will win wisconsin. i don't think there is any doubt. we have out organized them in wisconsin. we have got so many offices, staff, one of the top obama people in the entire orbit for many years now runs our operation in wisconsin, and we're going on the air there which made news -- made news last night that, you know, why are you going on the air there if you think you are so strong. well, look, we're getting pounded by outside groups. the romney campaign is on the area there and we have lead in three of the last five polls, and we have a real clear politics average lead of a couple of points. we'll win wisconsin when it is all said and done. the interesting one is north carolina where if you hear the republican spin on north carolina, they should be up five or ten points there. we have got whatever problems they perceive in north carolina. it's a
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